Sunday goodness

It’s hard to be inside but I am taking my turn with Liam’s nap. It is gorgeous out and I seriously doubt we’ll even be cooking, because that would mean coming in. Subs at the beach! Well, we’ll see.

That said, for anyone not experiencing The Spring Has Sprung:

I think Laura at 11d is worth reading almost any day, and my long-held opinion is being supported by editors at The Atlantic and GOOD so I continue to be smug about my ability to spot talent. That said, her post on special ed misconceptions (taken from the comments of the previous post) is a standout, I think; it’s clearly a response but it comes with the weight of her thinking over years.

I am liking GOOD a lot these days. Sometimes the concept exceeds the execution but that’s a good sweet spot.

I live in the area of Toronto with the fewest cheaters on Ashley Madison. Ashley Madison fascinates me as a thoroughly immoral business, and yet it sort of proves my point over and over that non-monogamy is not really out there (certainly not like multiplicity). (I, however, am into ethical non-monogamy, which is different, and I am physically monogamous. Just in case anyone is landing on this page. :))

And yet I would say that more people have been sympathetic to my disclosure of multiplicity than have of my disclosure of polyamorous feelings. I think the idea is you can’t control that you were abused as a kid but you can control your poor taste in admitting to extra-marital attraction/love.

I have always loved the space shuttles and these shots are beautiful if sad. So much is over, and if I am lucky, so much more will be over before I die.

This is a beautiful ring. Maybe I should get into Pinterest.

Since I linked to Katie Granju’s blog last week, this week I do have to say that I think her attempt at a “gotcha” of Elisabeth Badinter’s book on motherhood is pretty shoddy journalism; I will assume grief is clouding her judgement. Owning a 10% stake in a huge (Publicis is HUGE) PR company that has a Nestle account is nothing like Nestle paying her, even if Badinter weren’t already crazy rich and hadn’t already spent decades in publishing philosophical works around this kind of issue.

I deal with PR companies and while it might be the case that if they were giving a meeting and choosing between Catering A and Catering B and had Catering B’s account, they might buy that in a gesture of goodwill, getting an intellectual to publish a book critizing a whole group of middle class to upper middle class women who make shopping decisions is kind of the antithesis of good PR.

That said I also think blaming AP for the pressure on women to be perfect parents (whether that means giving up their own non-parenting goals or not) is QUITE silly; I don’t know if the book really does that or whether it’s marketing though…because I haven’t read it.

Mnnn life is good…and I know there’s a remix or whatever but this is the classic:

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Dinner, the Family Channel version

So Noah’s last Orff class was today. We had a Demonstration Class to attend but Liam was drowning it out so I took him out.

To kind of celebrate the term we decided to go out for dinner as a family and gave Noah the choice of restaurant. It made my heart break because we don’t eat out much right now and he picked Shoeless Joe’s, a Toronto-originated sports bar chain with one near our house.

Noah picks it, again and again, because it has TV. Sports. And – the Family Channel. As far as I can tell, the Family Channel is about as much about families as Happy Meals are about happiness…that is, not very. But Noah now wants to crack the Older Kid Code, and since the Family Channel seems to be endless versions of Saved By The Bell on crack, he is enthralled. The shows drive me insane, I mean feminist shrillness cranked up, what with the sassy black friend, the jolly fat friend, etc., the girls coifed just so at…14. Mostly rock stars I guess. Viva la Hanna Montana. I think probably in the 4-5 times we go there a year Noah gets more out of me on the topic of stereotypes than anything other than a Thomas episode (“why are the girl engines absent or silly”) or, god forbid, Thomas’s Magic Railroad. (Just. Don’t. Ask.)

As for the food… Lynn put “Worst Pies In London” on from Sweeney Todd on the way there and that about says it all. Our local one seems to have trouble like running out of…milk. To drink. Or making desiccated wings.

Anyways the irony is we had a blast. Noah couldn’t decipher whatever the show was and we watched the Rangers trounce the Capitals and a local junior hockey team was in the restaurant doing awards and the clapping kept Liam quite happy and we all joked around and the food wasn’t awful-awful.

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And more

Too much naptime, and then I was thinking in the shower about Ell. You know some people say don’t let them rent space in your head and I know what they mean. But this is the other kind: The actual movement. It is hard to tell in words.

Anyways I was thinking two things. One is that in that letter to Sass from last weekend I said “hey I logged off when I was upset” and “you left us that was mean” in the same post/letter/whatever. There is a difference, to me – well a number of them: Length of time, attitude upon return, whether you paint the person as evil in between, whether you take responsibility – but granted, it is entirely possible that it’s really the same thing. I would definitely have agreed if in January 2011 someone had said that.

Later, of course, after October, I don’t think there’s much argument for it being the same thing but, who knows.

Anyways, that was my thought. I have no conclusion. :-)

Number two I don’t think I’ve ever posted anything apologetic on the blog, or maybe I did but not for quite a while. I did apologize Right Away at the time and I guess I just feel like that was my final word.

But I just pulled it up from my email folders to have a look at it and yeah…there is a big consistency there. I say I’m sorry for not realizing X, that I believe in our relationship, that I believe in them as people and we are glad and lucky to have had them in our lives. And please come back?

I’m not quite sure what it means, this consistency in viewpoint. I mean I’ve gone through the middle period of reading up on BPD and I do think there was something inherently disconnected that went on; I have moved from angry to furious to numb to hurt and I seem to have come pretty much back to the same place, one step removed: I thought we were in a reasonably good relationship, with some issues — ones I think are new is seeing how shut down we were about some stuff — and she thought it was horrible and abusive and had to end.

And that is huge and means it had to end. Not just Sass’s view, but the disconnect itself. It’s too big a gulf. If it needs to be said, it is obviously a gap on both sides. I kind of like the word insensitive; I was insensitive and that carries an appropriately negative connotation.

So it doesn’t matter. Except I am the kind of person to whom it matters, to think about these things, even beyond the norm. This thinking, today, is me being me and I am simultaneously thinking quite a number of other, happy things, honest, some of which I cannot share right now. But I guess I was being just aware enough that most of you don’t actually know me to say:

1. Yes I see the disconnect and
2. Yes I did apologize, in case it looked like I never did.

Liam is now awake, and we are about to leave for Noah’s last, demonstration, music class. There is no fat lady, but there will be singing!

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Housekeeping note

For the purpose of blog continuity I note that I republished, without edits, my letter to Sass (but really for me) from last weekend. On re-reading I decided it was just…I don’t know. So in the moment of that moment? That I would leave it visible. When I go back through my archives, whether it is parenting or whatever, it is those posts that I find resonate with me myself.

But also when Lynn and others (me too) have looked to blogs to feel that – yes! – moment of connection, it’s posts like that – the kind you find tedious when you are not there – that have helped.

Multiples, for a variety of reasons, often have trouble with what is normal in relationships, or what is normal for multiples. Like in the LJ community someone was asking what you do when someone else in your system messed up a relationship of yours past the point of repair. I could say something – or a bunch of somethings – but that isn’t the same as having recorded a moment.

So there’s my moment of – wanting to say that to someone who will never hear it. [Edit: But really, sharing on that "abusive" axis. It's hard, when your experience is so fractured, to know. In that moment when I read, again, that I am a crazy messed up abusive freak, again, in the eyes of my once-BFF/girlfriend, that's what I thought, take it or leave it. I will admit there may have been unwritten days when I felt the reverse; ask Nicholas. :-)]

One thing that strikes me in that post though is that I left out that I ended it with Lohr, myself. But I never did talk to Sass; I posted some stuff but it was not a conversation. I didn’t think, at the time, that we could have one. And that was true. But it does mean really I left the second time.

But – and this is what I mean by Mags and I getting in shared headspace – that wasn’t what Lynn and Mags experienced. And in my post there (The song that never ends one) I see that come through. And it feels a bit wrong. So to clarify: I think it was lousy that they cut contact and ran, and told the kids not to email them, and stuff. But I had clearly left.

Not quite sure why I am on this except I am sort of clearing out this old business today. It has been a very, very good week: real, emotional, but grounded.

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Where’s the Weyr??

Holy crap you all but I am like totally taking the risk to tell you I love my job today. There is this tv show up here, Dragons D-n which has nothing to do with dragons; it’s five venture capitalists – big billionaire people – who sit and get pitches from entrepreneurs to invest in their products, reality-show style. There is a spinoff called Shark T-nk in the US now I think.

Anyways I and 3 other media types got to sit in today and have lunch w/ the billionaires and it was so much fucking fun. And the swearing level is up not because I swore – not that kind of crowd – but because the banter/talk level with these guys is…well in fact in front of media they are charming but the show works cause they are powerful, pugnacious and wicked smart. Hanging out (in a PR way) with them reminds me of (hello 3 people who will get this) hanging out with the Ambar/Amberyl/D’vin wizcorps.

(Or, if you read Lois McMaster Bujold, it was like me being Miles going from Barrayar to the Dendarii merchants. Vorkosigan to Naismith!!!! !!!)

In other words I got to play Shandra. And…I totally did. I sat in one of their chairs and touched the (real!) stacks of money on the set, giving the security guy a heart attack, all for bloggy material, and we talked pitches and stuff for my piece (Sept) and…it was soooo much fun. The only latent part of that persona I let lie was the flirty bits because, you know, married. 41. WORK.

In other words I pretended I was a junior one of them and I think it made for good conversation. It definitely was fine for getting answers. It isn’t really required – I mean research, thoughtful questions, careful notes, attention to detail is the job. But the perk is getting to be there doing it. No one cares who I am, so I could be the me I might have been. Or something.

The idea was to come experience what the show is (developed) like. And it was fun. Just plain fun, for me, fun for my warrior queen side fun fun.

Now I have to go help people clear cookies and enter contests so, there is that.

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Signposts

As I’ve said somewhere (I am the world’s laziest blogger about links *and* categories *and* tags, please bear with me) we don’t intend to talk to the boys about being multiple until a) they ask or there is a reason to and b) preferably when they are quite grown. Obviously something could happen – TV crews outside! – but barring that unlikelihood, that’s our approach.

At the same time we want to have been ourselves enough that, you know, looking back with that information the boys could see the little streaks of us-ness in their lives. Because boy, if there is something that unites us besides our body, it is love of our kids. And we want to have been present, collectively and individually.

Anyways, Noah also knows about the fairy book and we have been sharing little bits that we have written, both just to share (major reason) and to sort of gently suggest that writing, it is fun! (minor reason)

So this morning Noah was asking me if I can read his mind. (No I’m not sure why. Noah’s imagination is on 24/7 overdrive; part of what his teacher complains about is that he holds entire conversations/stories/worlds with…his thumbs.) So I said no.

“Can fairies read your mind?”
“Well I don’t really think so honey. Maybe special ones.”
“Are *you* a fairy?”
Lyria: “Well maybe *part* fairy” (copious giggling)
[I will note Lyr and I are still jostling up against each other a LOT so I had to...]
Me: “And part warrior queen!”
Lynn: “And part priestess. And story teller.”
I’d like to say it was a chorus but Lyr jumped in with: “And ALL your mom.”

Noah: Well I like fairy and warrior queen and what was the other one?
Lynn: Priestess
Noah: Mnnn I don’t…well fine OKAY but only PART
Lynn, serious: Only part

Me: So! How do you feel about having a mom who’s part warrior queen!

Noah: I don’t know… but can you read my mind really?
Me: No, but I try to pay attention to what I can see. But if you want me to know your mind you have to tell me. That’s the tough part.
Noah: Well okay then (heads off for Noah business)

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Humour, sense of // Marriage signals

To begin one of his performances, comedian and musician Steve Martin ambled on stage and told his audience what to expect. “Before every show,” he said, “I like to do one thing that is impossible. So now I’m going to suck this piano into my lungs.” That’s the kind of brag I hope to hear coming from you sometime soon, Leo — the more outrageous the better. Why? Because I’d love to see you cultivate a looser, breezier relationship with your actual ambitions. To make boastful jokes about wacky or farfetched goals might inspire you to be jauntier and friskier about those real ones. And that would rouse a burst of fresh motivational energy.

Weirdly that is in some ways the mood I’ve been in the last few weeks. That is, I’m regaining some of my quirky sense of humour that life kicked out of me the last while. Uh oh!!!

~~~

On that note I was thinking about the delicious email I got back from Nicholas after the one I posted a bit from — the one where I said please start criticism with “you are incredibly sexy but…” and it reminded me of Fruit and Nut bar moments.

So a long time ago Carl and I were hanging out in bed on a weekend (Oh. My god. When you have little kids you forget this was once possible) and there was a story on the radio, probably a Vinyl Cafe story, about a couple where (as I remember it) one of them, or both of them, loved Cadbury Fruit and Nut bars and one of them kept the nightstand stocked, as it were, with one of them and then I think that spouse died and the other spouse missed the Fruit and Nut bars or whatever.

Anyways, due to the cosy glow and all this story, and the lying in bed together in the sun in a dishelved manner, kind of stuck with us. And now when we are getting tetchy with each other over something relatively minor, if someone brings up Cadbury Fruit and Nut bars, it kind of immediately signals this:

…okay I am upset/stressed/pissed off/sleep deprived but…glad we’re going to, fate willing, grow old together.

It wouldn’t make sense to anyone else (like most of our couple code things) but it works.

One thing I have learned about long-term marriage, for me anyway, is that if you can create or fall into these small or funny or outrageous or crazy little phrases/reminders/whatever it really, really helps to maintain some long-term perspective. Carl and I are not really a high conflict couple, but with juggling all the schedules, kids, the introvert/extrovert thing, family caregiving, and all that, it is nice to have a fast way to put a smile on each other’s faces.

So…today we found out neither of us got Liam’s paperwork into the daycare. Classic I-thought-he-did; he-thought-I-did; the papers were stuck in a folder. He just found them. I am freaking out and about to call the daycare (Did: It sounds like we’re okay but the actual headmistress was not in today, however the TEACHER knew Liam is coming, so sounds okay), and the text trail includes: FINE I have OVARIES so I will CALL. But my next text is…and I’ll pick a Fruit & Nut bar up on the way home. Because my feminist high horse might come charging through, but not trample.

I wonder why talking about this stuff seems so taboo?

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10 things today!

1. Liam had a urology follow-up and he is on annual check ups! Woo hoo! Now ask me about how they put us in a hospital room and asked that we keep the door open…for 2 hours.

2. Liam has learned quite a lot about hospital wiring. So have I.

3. Noah got big praise for his work habits last week. With a timer. Admin meeting next week.

4. If you want to discover how seriously a school takes nut allergies, send pasta with pesto. Oops. I seriously have not looked up pine nuts but they got lunch put in the penalty box. Mea culpa! Luckily no one was harmed.

5. Am having lunch with reality tv people on Friday. I swear my Dragons Den obsession is not just due to the name.

6. “Do you think we could get more discussion going on our blog?” Oh no, an open invitation to say what I really think.

7. I haven’t talked weight in a while. I weighed myself today. Going back to the office has stalled my loss, but I haven’t gained, so am a steady 3 lbs under my WW goal. I expect it will creep up a bit once Liam weans fully.

8. Exercise. Not happening other than playing with kids. Errr?

9. There is an uproar about AP/etc. Parenting going on. I tried to explain cosleeping to a friend and he heard cosplaying. Errr yeah no.

10. Today I had to pick stock photos for a piece on erectile dysfunction. Caprice had a blast finding every inappropriate metaphor possible.

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The paleontology of love

I just made that title up and I like it, but I suspect someone’s thought of it before.

Anyways, much calmer today. Yesterday brought home that with Mags’s new world outlook, we can really get on the same wavelength which is both interesting and disturbing. I’m glad though that after Mags clicked the “San” link, I clicked the “Sassy” link. It would be hard to not root for San and Mags still a little, if it weren’t for that. San is still a reasonably classy guy, if you overlook what he did to Mags and her kids.

So I wrote this whole thing yesterday and it was helpful to me but I took it down because it was kind of long and screedy. I thought maybe I would see what percolated out today.

And of everything I read quickly through…one thing kind of stood out to me as so sad and so explanatory that I thought I would write about it. Sass’s dad died, which is so very sad and I’m sad for her and her family.

In her blog, Sass wrote something like (I didn’t save direct quotes) “She [me] wouldn’t approve of me helping my mother anyway.”

And…yeah, there it is. What the fuck? Where do I start here.

First, I really don’t know how you can know me and have been in my life for the last decade of my mother putting the chairs I (UIL) was sodomized over in her home and me continuing to go talk to her nicely on her porch but holding the line at not entering the house, walking that delicate line between holding my boundary about the chairs and still maintaining some kind of caring relationship…taking care of loads of family…and think that I would not approve or get or whatever the word was, helping one’s newly widowed mother. I’ve paid rent for relatives for years. I’ve shown up when my grandfather was dying to make sure he wasn’t being mistreated, and because he asked, I’ve looked after my parents.

What the hell voice is that in her head, that she ascribes to me?

What’s worse is, I kind of think I know how you could justify it. Because it’s true, if we were talking and she said say (I have no idea if this is the plan), “I’m going to move my mother in with me,” I would indeed have said “will that be okay with everyone else?”

Because…in my world, over here, that is one thing partners of multiples do for them…they check in. And I mean…I won’t betray confidences but there is stuff that their mother did to their self-image that might indicate it could be hard for some of them.

But I’d just be asking.

Not only that.

But Lohr and Sass frequently did ask me similar things about when we were seeing my mother and how was that for Dominic and Lyria. Am I to understand, then, that they were “disapproving” of something and I missed it?

What the hell does “approval” mean anyway?

I mean, I’m all about talking things out with the people we love and trust. I love that; I do it all the time; part of this whole read-the-blog thing is that I sort of made myself (note the agency: I made myself) accountable to Nicholas over it and then I have to say yeah…I failed at my own goals and my own promise here. It’s human and understandable but…I failed. And then I have to metaphorically or astrally look in his eyes and kind of see what that means for him.

But ultimately…my choice would be my choice.

I have kind of zero problem, actually, saying I know you don’t approve but I have to do this anyway. if that’s what it takes. (In the above case though, it wouldn’t be that.$

I have much more problem saying this is going to hurt you, but. The second is one million times harder. I’ve done that too, not least telling Carl we were multiple and I didn’t feel like his wife. But the first…that’s sort of where my moral or behavioural compass is oriented. If I really, really think something is the right course, and it doesn’t involve someone else’s body/mind/spirit or children or whatever, then I’m glad to listen and maybe be swayed but…as a person I have to behave in accordance with what I think it right.

I also expect, really, that that is what adults do.

So…if this shadow-me that disapproved did, even though I wouldn’t, I would still support Sass in her decision. As I did many times.

But no really what I loved was that Sass was still making up this blaming, disapproving, negative voice for me. About something I would feel the opposite about.

I kind of wonder if it works. Does it work, to externalize your inner critic and then divorce it? I guess it does, at least for a while. I mean sure…I’ve had those thoughts, someone won’t like something. But for the most part…I’d check in. And although it’s been a while for most things, sure, when we first broke up I had that sort of negative sound in my head but ultimately but…I knew the thoughts were mine.

Anyways, it brought home that there really was no way for the real me to be heard, over the voice in her head. I was thinking it’s too bad you can’t download thought, because in some alternate universe, after the breakup she would have found my thoughts during the relationship and been ashamed of herself.

Now though, I do struggle.

~~~

After my humorous (yes, I have a gallows funny bone) post about what Sass’s journal could say, I did write my own. I might publish it retroactively. The complimentary stuff was easy; I wasn’t the one who fell out of love after all. [ETA: Originally. Originally. Now; so over it. After last summer and the astral kids bullshit? Yah. Still, I can remember what was good too. Just clarifying. :)]

But I figured if I had said her ideal blog post would admit she was a shit to me, I would have to take another run at abusive as a self-descriptor.

I will admit I did not get too far, but a conversation I had with Nicholas came to mind. We can’t do X and I said fine, but then I get to complain about X. This is my way because for me, what is verbal generally is able to be dealt with. As a minor example, if my mother said “your room is a mess,” well, then she was calm and we were not in crazytown. But coming home to chaos and screaming or silence…deadly. Part of my not-blowing-up thing is to address feelings early.

But…Nicholas experiences the complaining as “fix X.” In his world, even if I say “I’m just complaining” it is still hard for him not to read it as me trying to accomplish X. (And, I think, it’s vaguely tacky.)

Because we can talk about it without making each other into villains (something Sass and I used to do, long ago, or so I thought :)) we are sort of gradually meeting halfway, I think. I am making an effort to complain less and he to trust that my complaining is bark not bite.

But here is the insight: if you were a person who took someone expressing an opinion or complaint as a requirement or something, you might comment with the expectation that the other person would do something. Like yesterday!

For example: it’s hard that you are married to Carl.

My response: Yeah, it is.

Expected response: at the very least, shame at not fixing it now.

I mean…I never was not married (this is one example, but a key one). The whole thing started, continued, and grew on that basis. I mean…they were here. Carl was a bit spaced out worrying we were leaving but…it’s not like he was introduced as the roomate.

And that was hard. All of it on everyone, and yes, we were the y-connector. But everyone had information and choice.

And to me hard is…just hard. It’s not you need to change this. for me, if I mean that – and sometimes I have, in relationships – then I say that. Hard means…let’s revel in our shared strength, in our choices, in sleep deprivation due to having children with the audacity to have colds; plenty of things are hard. But oh the delights too.

Anyways, I would call that a lack of sensitivity. To these nuances, particularly if one expected them.

I was insensitive, both by nature and even more so once my energy turned to my obsessive desire to have child- needing to focus on getting through Liam’s nightmare pregnancy. (Sass quote.) I think that would be a ver fair statement.

So that was today’s recovery work.

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Owie! Hot!

Liam learns faster than we do apparently. :) No direct injury (knock wood), just that if you say hot he will slow down.

We, being the boys and I, had dinner at my parents’. Given that Mags Read Stuff during morning nap and then cried and then I got ranty during my Sunday hour of peace, it was tempting to plead off. But it was fine.

I still feel very much on bonus time with my dad and try not to miss a chance to get the boys together with everyone. But it can go emotionally tricky, especially with the Lynns right now. It’s a tough line sometimes, grandparent/grandkid bonding vs. self-care. It would have been best to rewrite the morning and not let first Avalon and then Mags online, but time still does not run backwards. Liam is snuggled on me going to sleep though and then I think I will see if Carl can manage Noah and I can do yoga or go for a walk.

(Avalon entered a poetry contest but alas, I think it needed a bit longer. Or um, things skip a generation.)

It is pretty dumb that Mags looked (and then I participated). It’s not like Sass is going to wake up one morning and say hey, I can’t believe I chose to believe my good-hearted, passionate, over-thinking, optimistic, canoe-loving, child-rearing-and-adoring, creative, resilient friend, who loved me enough to try to love and support me and our headmates on both sides in a real and connected way while still honoring and respecting the vows with her husband of 6 years around when we met, who definitely got angry and frustrated and inarticulate at times, sometimes tripping over triggers from her pretty shitty past, certainly didn’t mean to make me feel (whatever she felt, that she did not share with me), because not only did she tell me she loved me often, she supported me in many ventures like studying and condo buying and taking my health seriously, and doing things like hearing me about the dollhouse I wanted etc. etc. etc., forgiving me for some of my screw ups like picking a fight over her daughter’s funeral, because that is what people who care do, hugging me when I was down, and who was always free with her view that I am a capable and worthwhile human being. And I must own that I both did not communicate my feelings of (whatever) and I did not treat her with even basic care in breaking up with her in a respectful way, and that I have chosen to portray her as abusive out of my own misplaced messed up garbage; it is entirely possible that I should not have chosen to stay in a polyamorous relationship or to continue to pretend to love someone that I did not fundamentally respect, someone I apparently thought was a disaster in almost every way; to continue to encourage her to share her fears while in hospital, to hang out online watching reality TV from a hospital bed as friends before my trip and to cuddle up with my headmate mere hours before picking a fight so I could dump her at a terrible and unexpected time, and basically to mislead her into thinking that I had her best interests at heart, when I was actually thinking of her as a conniving, abusive bitch.

:-)

As I’ve said many times, I can point to things in the relationship that were hard: I was working on not running off in an argument (not to “punish”, whatever that means in a relationship of equals, but because that’s how I survived growing up where you could not challenge my mother, as I said one thousand times) and still feeling my way through “well if you don’t leave, then what? How do you calm down?” That is literally the worst thing I did (after the horses stuff, years back, with Lohr that was clearly abuse stuff) that I am left with. I never once called Sassy a name or said she couldn’t do anything she set her mind to or demeaned her…I never thought like that, which is why I am certain of myself here. If anything I think I tend to cheerlead too loudly – you can do it! – when the person might like a backrub.

Abusive is tearing someone down, and I’m not into that. A long time ago, yes, I did some via Internet; the DarkPersonalities culture was particularly wobbly for me at times but…I learned, where, it is clear from the nasty tone, others did not…and that’s ok, it’s just – funny.

Sigh. I am arguing the point, again: no I was not abusive. And it is crazy to argue, not just because you just end up sounding like the real ones (darn them) but because there is no one to argue with.

Sass’s opinions really are way way more about herself than me; she may or may not have loved me, and I may think we were close, but she simply cannot have known me if she thinks that. If she’d said I sometimes assume people are as secure in their stated views as I am in mine, or that I am someone who takes on a lot of responsibility, past the point of failure, and who then gets down on herself for it and wastes valuable couple time beating herself up for imaginary failures to rid the world of evil, and sometimes drags people into pedantic arguments on that score, she would have a point. Or as Carl said “does Magdalynn not have enough bad memories to cope with this week that she has to go looking?”

(Although of course what she wanted was her San but, oh well.)

Liam is asleep and this is enough. In summary: touched the stove, ow, must stop, time heals.

ETA: Wow, how did the Ferrett nail this one today of all days?

And P.P.S. for your amusement, I told Nicholas: Now cinnamon though, you may totally be disappointed in me or us and push us to be compassionate [I add: Or whatever else, but he knows that :)] but please frame it something like this: You are incredibly sexy but…

:-)

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